diff --git a/src/common/2d/v_draw.cpp b/src/common/2d/v_draw.cpp
index c7dcd83d4..c6ca5188b 100644
--- a/src/common/2d/v_draw.cpp
+++ b/src/common/2d/v_draw.cpp
@@ -1529,6 +1529,19 @@ void DrawFrame(F2DDrawer* twod, PalEntry color, int left, int top, int width, in
 	twod->AddColorOnlyQuad(right, top - offset, offset, height + 2 * offset, color);
 }
 
+DEFINE_ACTION_FUNCTION(_Screen, DrawLineFrame)
+{
+	PARAM_PROLOGUE;
+	PARAM_COLOR(color);
+	PARAM_INT(left);
+	PARAM_INT(top);
+	PARAM_INT(width);
+	PARAM_INT(height);
+	PARAM_INT(thickness);
+	DrawFrame(twod, color, left, top, width, height, thickness);
+	return 0;
+}
+
 void V_CalcCleanFacs(int designwidth, int designheight, int realwidth, int realheight, int* cleanx, int* cleany, int* _cx1, int* _cx2)
 {
 	if (designheight < 240 && realheight >= 480) designheight = 240;
diff --git a/wadsrc/static/menudef.txt b/wadsrc/static/menudef.txt
index f94f7a261..8210d28d9 100644
--- a/wadsrc/static/menudef.txt
+++ b/wadsrc/static/menudef.txt
@@ -285,8 +285,8 @@ ListMenu "LoadGameMenu"
 	{
 		NetgameMessage "$CLOADNET"
 	}
-	StaticTextCentered 160, -10, "$MNU_LOADGAME"
-	Position 80,54
+	CaptionItem "$MNU_LOADGAME"
+	Position 80,40
 	Class "LoadMenu"	// uses its own implementation
 	Size Clean
 }
@@ -299,8 +299,8 @@ ListMenu "LoadGameMenu"
 
 ListMenu "SaveGameMenu"
 {
-	StaticTextCentered 160, -10, "$MNU_SAVEGAME"
-	Position 80,54
+	CaptionItem "$MNU_SAVEGAME"
+	Position 80,40
 	Class "SaveMenu"	// uses its own implementation
 	Size Clean
 }
diff --git a/wadsrc/static/zscript/base.zs b/wadsrc/static/zscript/base.zs
index b595c2242..17f9e680f 100644
--- a/wadsrc/static/zscript/base.zs
+++ b/wadsrc/static/zscript/base.zs
@@ -230,7 +230,7 @@ struct TexMan
 		NOT_FLAT			= 24
 	};
 
-	native static TextureID CheckForTexture(String name, int usetype, int flags = TryAny);
+	native static TextureID CheckForTexture(String name, int usetype = Type_Any, int flags = TryAny);
 	native static String GetName(TextureID tex);
 	native static int, int GetSize(TextureID tex);
 	native static Vector2 GetScaledSize(TextureID tex);
@@ -389,6 +389,7 @@ struct Screen native
 	native static vararg void DrawChar(Font font, int normalcolor, double x, double y, int character, ...);
 	native static vararg void DrawText(Font font, int normalcolor, double x, double y, String text, ...);
 	native static void DrawLine(int x0, int y0, int x1, int y1, Color color, int alpha = 255);
+	native static void DrawLineFrame(Color color, int x0, int y0, int w, int h, int thickness = 1);
 	native static void DrawThickLine(int x0, int y0, int x1, int y1, double thickness, Color color, int alpha = 255);
 	native static Vector2, Vector2 VirtualToRealCoords(Vector2 pos, Vector2 size, Vector2 vsize, bool vbottom=false, bool handleaspect=true);
 	native static double GetAspectRatio();
@@ -482,6 +483,7 @@ struct Font native
 	native static Font FindFont(Name fontname);
 	native static Font GetFont(Name fontname);
 	native BrokenLines BreakLines(String text, int maxlen);
+	native int GetGlyphHeight(int code);
 }
 
 struct Console native
diff --git a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/listmenu.zs b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/listmenu.zs
index 24f10c49e..917fe270c 100644
--- a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/listmenu.zs
+++ b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/listmenu.zs
@@ -172,7 +172,7 @@ class ListMenu : Menu
 		case MKEY_Enter:
 			if (mDesc.mSelectedItem >= 0 && mDesc.mItems[mDesc.mSelectedItem].Activate())
 			{
-				MenuSound("menu/choose");
+				MenuSound("menu/advance");
 			}
 			return true;
 
@@ -265,10 +265,13 @@ class ListMenu : Menu
 	{
 		for(int i=0;i<mDesc.mItems.Size(); i++)
 		{
-			if (mDesc.mItems[i].mEnabled > 0) mDesc.mItems[i].Draw(mDesc.mSelectedItem == i, mDesc);
+			if (mDesc.mItems[i].mEnabled) mDesc.mItems[i].Draw(mDesc.mSelectedItem == i, mDesc);
 		}
 		if (mDesc.mSelectedItem >= 0 && mDesc.mSelectedItem < mDesc.mItems.Size())
-			mDesc.mItems[mDesc.mSelectedItem].DrawSelector(mDesc.mSelectOfsX, mDesc.mSelectOfsY, mDesc.mSelector, mDesc);
+		{
+			if (!menuDelegate.DrawSelector(mDesc))
+				mDesc.mItems[mDesc.mSelectedItem].DrawSelector(mDesc.mSelectOfsX, mDesc.mSelectOfsY, mDesc.mSelector, mDesc);
+		}
 		Super.Drawer();
 	}
 	
diff --git a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/listmenuitems.zs b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/listmenuitems.zs
index 368bcc3b8..13d96281c 100644
--- a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/listmenuitems.zs
+++ b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/listmenuitems.zs
@@ -219,7 +219,7 @@ class ListMenuItemSelectable : ListMenuItem
 	
 	override bool CheckCoordinate(int x, int y)
 	{
-		return mEnabled && y >= mYpos && y < mYpos + mHeight;	// no x check here
+		return mEnabled > 0 && y >= mYpos && y < mYpos + mHeight;	// no x check here
 	}
 	
 	override bool Selectable()
@@ -340,3 +340,31 @@ class ListMenuItemPatchItem : ListMenuItemSelectable
 	
 }
 
+//=============================================================================
+//
+// caption - draws a text using the customizer's caption hook
+//
+//=============================================================================
+
+class ListMenuItemCaptionItem : ListMenuItem
+{
+	String mText;
+	Font mFont;
+
+	void Init(ListMenuDescriptor desc, String text, String fnt = "BigFont")
+	{
+		Super.Init(0, 0);
+		mText = text;
+		mFont = Font.FindFont(fnt);
+	}
+	
+	override void Draw(bool selected, ListMenuDescriptor desc)
+	{
+		let font = generic_ui || !desc.mFont ? NewSmallFont : desc.mFont;
+		if (font && mText.Length() > 0)
+		{
+			menuDelegate.DrawCaption(mText, font, 0, true);
+		}
+	}
+}
+
diff --git a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/loadsavemenu.zs b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/loadsavemenu.zs
index eb9b71436..837970a9c 100644
--- a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/loadsavemenu.zs
+++ b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/loadsavemenu.zs
@@ -91,14 +91,11 @@ class LoadSaveMenu : ListMenu
 	int listboxRows;
 	int listboxHeight;
 	int listboxRight;
-	int listboxBottom;
 
 	int commentLeft;
 	int commentTop;
 	int commentWidth;
 	int commentHeight;
-	int commentRight;
-	int commentBottom;
 	int commentRows;
 
 	bool mEntering;
@@ -118,33 +115,34 @@ class LoadSaveMenu : ListMenu
 	override void Init(Menu parent, ListMenuDescriptor desc)
 	{
 		Super.Init(parent, desc);
+		bool aspect43 = true;
+		int Width43 = screen.GetHeight() * 4 / 3;
+		int Left43 = (screen.GetWidth() - Width43) / 2;
+		
 		manager = SavegameManager.GetManager();
 		manager.ReadSaveStrings();
+		double wScale = Width43 / 640.;
 
-		savepicLeft = 10;
-		savepicTop = 54*CleanYfac;
-		savepicWidth = 216*screen.GetWidth() / 640;
-		savepicHeight = 135*screen.GetHeight() / 400;
+		savepicLeft = Left43 + int(20 * wScale);
+		savepicTop = mDesc.mYpos * screen.GetHeight() / 200 ;
+		savepicWidth = int(240 * wScale);
+		savepicHeight = int(180 * wScale);
 
 		FontScale = max(screen.GetHeight() / 480, 1);
 		rowHeight = int(max((NewConsoleFont.GetHeight() + 1) * FontScale, 1));
 		
-		listboxLeft = savepicLeft + savepicWidth + 14;
+		listboxLeft = savepicLeft + savepicWidth + int(20*wScale);
 		listboxTop = savepicTop;
-		listboxWidth = screen.GetWidth() - listboxLeft - 10;
-		int listboxHeight1 = screen.GetHeight() - listboxTop - 10;
+		listboxWidth = Width43 + Left43 - listboxLeft - int(30 * wScale);
+		int listboxHeight1 = screen.GetHeight() - listboxTop - int(20*wScale);
 		listboxRows = (listboxHeight1 - 1) / rowHeight;
 		listboxHeight = listboxRows * rowHeight + 1;
 		listboxRight = listboxLeft + listboxWidth;
-		listboxBottom = listboxTop + listboxHeight;
 
 		commentLeft = savepicLeft;
-		commentTop = savepicTop + savepicHeight + 16;
+		commentTop = savepicTop + savepicHeight + int(16 * wScale);
 		commentWidth = savepicWidth;
-		//commentHeight = (51+(screen.GetHeight()>200?10:0))*CleanYfac;
-		commentHeight = listboxHeight - savepicHeight - 16;
-		commentRight = commentLeft + commentWidth;
-		commentBottom = commentTop + commentHeight;
+		commentHeight = listboxHeight - savepicHeight - int(16 * wScale);
 		commentRows = commentHeight / rowHeight;
 	}
 
@@ -167,6 +165,12 @@ class LoadSaveMenu : ListMenu
 	//
 	//=============================================================================
 
+	virtual void DrawFrame(int left, int top, int width, int height)
+	{
+		let framecolor = Color(255, 80, 80, 80);
+		Screen.DrawLineFrame(framecolor, left, top, width, height, screen.GetHeight() / 240);
+	}
+
 	override void Drawer ()
 	{
 		Super.Drawer();
@@ -182,24 +186,25 @@ class LoadSaveMenu : ListMenu
 			return;
 		}
 
-		Screen.DrawFrame (savepicLeft, savepicTop, savepicWidth, savepicHeight);
+		DrawFrame(savepicLeft, savepicTop, savepicWidth, savepicHeight);
 		if (!manager.DrawSavePic(savepicLeft, savepicTop, savepicWidth, savepicHeight))
 		{
-			screen.Clear (savepicLeft, savepicTop, savepicLeft+savepicWidth, savepicTop+savepicHeight, 0, 0);
+			screen.Dim(0, 0.6, savepicLeft, savepicTop, savepicWidth, savepicHeight);
 
 			if (manager.SavegameCount() > 0)
 			{
+				if (Selected >= manager.SavegameCount()) Selected = 0;
 				String text = (Selected == -1 || !manager.GetSavegame(Selected).bOldVersion)? Stringtable.Localize("$MNU_NOPICTURE") : Stringtable.Localize("$MNU_DIFFVERSION");
-				int textlen = NewSmallFont.StringWidth(text) * CleanXfac;
+				int textlen = NewSmallFont.StringWidth(text);
 
-				screen.DrawText (NewSmallFont, Font.CR_GOLD, savepicLeft+(savepicWidth-textlen)/2,
-					savepicTop+(savepicHeight-rowHeight)/2, text, DTA_CleanNoMove, true);
+				screen.DrawText (NewSmallFont, Font.CR_GOLD, (savepicLeft+(savepicWidth-textlen)/2) / FontScale,
+					(savepicTop+(savepicHeight-rowHeight)/2) / FontScale, text, DTA_VirtualWidthF, screen.GetWidth() / FontScale, DTA_VirtualHeightF, screen.GetHeight() / FontScale);
 			}
 		}
 
 		// Draw comment area
-		Screen.DrawFrame (commentLeft, commentTop, commentWidth, commentHeight);
-		screen.Clear (commentLeft, commentTop, commentRight, commentBottom, 0, 0);
+		DrawFrame (commentLeft, commentTop, commentWidth, commentHeight);
+		screen.Dim(0, 0.6, commentLeft, commentTop, commentWidth, commentHeight);
 
 		int numlinestoprint = min(commentRows, BrokenSaveComment? BrokenSaveComment.Count() : 0);
 		for(int i = 0; i < numlinestoprint; i++)
@@ -210,8 +215,8 @@ class LoadSaveMenu : ListMenu
 		
 
 		// Draw file area
-		Screen.DrawFrame (listboxLeft, listboxTop, listboxWidth, listboxHeight);
-		screen.Clear (listboxLeft, listboxTop, listboxRight, listboxBottom, 0, 0);
+		DrawFrame (listboxLeft, listboxTop, listboxWidth, listboxHeight);
+		screen.Dim(0, 0.6, listboxLeft, listboxTop, listboxWidth, listboxHeight);
 
 		if (manager.SavegameCount() == 0)
 		{
diff --git a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/menu.zs b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/menu.zs
index a11e301e8..10b7adb58 100644
--- a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/menu.zs
+++ b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/menu.zs
@@ -129,10 +129,14 @@ class Menu : Object native ui version("2.4")
 		switch (mkey)
 		{
 		case MKEY_Back:
+		{
 			Close();
-			MenuSound (GetCurrentMenu() != null? "menu/backup" : "menu/clear");
+			let m = GetCurrentMenu();
+			MenuSound(m != null ? "menu/backup" : "menu/clear");
+			if (!m) menuDelegate.MenuDismissed();
 			return true;
 		}
+		}
 		return false;
 	}
 
@@ -283,9 +287,9 @@ class Menu : Object native ui version("2.4")
 	//
 	//=============================================================================
 
-	static void MenuSound(Sound snd)
+	static void MenuSound(Name snd)
 	{
-		S_StartSound (snd, CHAN_VOICE, CHANF_MAYBE_LOCAL|CHAN_UI, snd_menuvolume, ATTN_NONE);
+		menuDelegate.PlaySound(snd);
 	}
 	
 	deprecated("4.0") static void DrawConText (int color, int x, int y, String str)
diff --git a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/menucustomize.zs b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/menucustomize.zs
index da946f6d4..35d330d6a 100644
--- a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/menucustomize.zs
+++ b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/menucustomize.zs
@@ -5,6 +5,21 @@ class MenuDelegateBase
 	virtual int DrawCaption(String title, Font fnt, int y, bool drawit)
 	{
 		screen.DrawText(fnt, OptionMenuSettings.mTitleColor, (screen.GetWidth() - fnt.StringWidth(title) * CleanXfac_1) / 2, 10 * CleanYfac_1, title, DTA_CleanNoMove_1, true);
-		return y + fnt.GetHeight();
+		return (y + fnt.GetHeight()) * CleanYfac_1;	// return is spacing in screen pixels.
 	}
+	
+	virtual void PlaySound(Name sound)
+	{
+	}
+	
+	virtual bool DrawSelector(ListMenuDescriptor desc)
+	{
+		return false;
+	}
+
+	virtual void MenuDismissed()
+	{
+		// overriding this allows to execute special actions when the menu closes
+	}
+	
 }
diff --git a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/optionmenu.zs b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/optionmenu.zs
index 2ae7564c7..6392adf3f 100644
--- a/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/optionmenu.zs
+++ b/wadsrc/static/zscript/ui/menu/optionmenu.zs
@@ -456,9 +456,8 @@ class OptionMenu : Menu
 		{
 			y = DrawCaption(mDesc.mTitle, -y, true);
 		}
-		mDesc.mDrawTop = y;
+		mDesc.mDrawTop = y / CleanYfac_1; // mouse checks are done in clean space.
 		int fontheight = OptionMenuSettings.mLinespacing * CleanYfac_1;
-		y *= CleanYfac_1;
 
 		int indent = GetIndent();