diff --git a/src/lua_baselib.c b/src/lua_baselib.c
index e8e8fd02..aa2ebf65 100644
--- a/src/lua_baselib.c
+++ b/src/lua_baselib.c
@@ -1009,10 +1009,11 @@ static int lib_pTeleportMove(lua_State *L)
 static int lib_pSlideMove(lua_State *L)
 {
 	mobj_t *mo = *((mobj_t **)luaL_checkudata(L, 1, META_MOBJ));
+	boolean forceslide = luaL_checkboolean(L, 2);
 	NOHUD
 	if (!mo)
 		return LUA_ErrInvalid(L, "mobj_t");
-	P_SlideMove(mo);
+	P_SlideMove(mo, forceslide);
 	return 0;
 }
 
diff --git a/src/p_local.h b/src/p_local.h
index c86256ae..7533429a 100644
--- a/src/p_local.h
+++ b/src/p_local.h
@@ -326,7 +326,7 @@ boolean P_CheckCameraPosition(fixed_t x, fixed_t y, camera_t *thiscam);
 boolean P_TryMove(mobj_t *thing, fixed_t x, fixed_t y, boolean allowdropoff);
 boolean P_Move(mobj_t *actor, fixed_t speed);
 boolean P_TeleportMove(mobj_t *thing, fixed_t x, fixed_t y, fixed_t z);
-void P_SlideMove(mobj_t *mo);
+void P_SlideMove(mobj_t *mo, boolean forceslide);
 void P_BounceMove(mobj_t *mo);
 boolean P_CheckSight(mobj_t *t1, mobj_t *t2);
 void P_CheckHoopPosition(mobj_t *hoopthing, fixed_t x, fixed_t y, fixed_t z, fixed_t radius);
diff --git a/src/p_map.c b/src/p_map.c
index bf7ad90d..547444ec 100644
--- a/src/p_map.c
+++ b/src/p_map.c
@@ -3521,8 +3521,9 @@ stairstep:
 // and slide along it
 //
 // This is a kludgy mess.
+// Kart 2017-10-25: add forceslide to hav the option to force something to slide instead of bounce
 //
-void P_SlideMove(mobj_t *mo)
+void P_SlideMove(mobj_t *mo, boolean forceslide)
 {
 	fixed_t leadx, leady, trailx, traily, newx, newy;
 	INT16 hitcount = 0;
@@ -3600,7 +3601,7 @@ retry:
 		PT_ADDLINES, PTR_SlideTraverse);
 
 	// Some walls are bouncy even if you're not
-	if (bestslideline && !(bestslideline->flags & ML_BOUNCY)) // SRB2kart - All walls are bouncy unless specified otherwise
+	if (!forceslide && bestslideline && !(bestslideline->flags & ML_BOUNCY)) // SRB2kart - All walls are bouncy unless specified otherwise
 	{
 		P_BounceMove(mo);
 		return;
diff --git a/src/p_mobj.c b/src/p_mobj.c
index 5e2c25f3..ccce7bf9 100644
--- a/src/p_mobj.c
+++ b/src/p_mobj.c
@@ -1809,7 +1809,7 @@ void P_XYMovement(mobj_t *mo)
 		}
 		else if (player || mo->flags & (MF_SLIDEME|MF_PUSHABLE))
 		{ // try to slide along it
-			P_SlideMove(mo);
+			P_SlideMove(mo, false);
 			xmove = ymove = 0;
 		}
 		else if (mo->type == MT_SPINFIRE)
@@ -1990,7 +1990,7 @@ static void P_RingXYMovement(mobj_t *mo)
 	I_Assert(!P_MobjWasRemoved(mo));
 
 	if (!P_SceneryTryMove(mo, mo->x + mo->momx, mo->y + mo->momy))
-		P_SlideMove(mo);
+		P_SlideMove(mo, false);
 }
 
 static void P_SceneryXYMovement(mobj_t *mo)
@@ -2004,7 +2004,7 @@ static void P_SceneryXYMovement(mobj_t *mo)
 	oldy = mo->y;
 
 	if (!P_SceneryTryMove(mo, mo->x + mo->momx, mo->y + mo->momy))
-		P_SlideMove(mo);
+		P_SlideMove(mo, false);
 
 	if ((!(mo->eflags & MFE_VERTICALFLIP) && mo->z > mo->floorz) || (mo->eflags & MFE_VERTICALFLIP && mo->z+mo->height < mo->ceilingz))
 		return; // no friction when airborne
@@ -6622,14 +6622,13 @@ void P_MobjThinker(mobj_t *mobj)
 					if (mobj->target->player)
 						mobj->scale = mobj->target->scale;
 
-					P_UnsetThingPosition(mobj);
-					{
-						const angle_t fa = mobj->angle>>ANGLETOFINESHIFT;
-						mobj->x = mobj->target->x + FixedMul(FINECOSINE(fa),radius);
-						mobj->y = mobj->target->y + FixedMul(FINESINE(fa), radius);
-						mobj->z = mobj->target->z + HEIGHT;
-						P_SetThingPosition(mobj);
-					}
+					P_TeleportMove(mobj, mobj->target->x, mobj->target->y, mobj->target->z);
+					mobj->momx = FixedMul(FINECOSINE(mobj->angle>>ANGLETOFINESHIFT),radius);
+					mobj->momy = FixedMul(FINESINE(mobj->angle>>ANGLETOFINESHIFT), radius);
+					if (!P_TryMove(mobj, mobj->target->x + mobj->momx, mobj->target->y + mobj->momy, false))
+						P_SlideMove(mobj, true);
+					mobj->z = mobj->floorz;
+					mobj->momx = mobj->momy = 0;
 
 					// Was this so hard?
 					if ((mobj->type == MT_GREENSHIELD && !(mobj->target->player->kartstuff[k_greenshell] & 1))