diff --git a/mp/src/vpc_scripts/default.vgc b/mp/src/vpc_scripts/default.vgc
index f4c5bcbf..1d5f9aaf 100644
--- a/mp/src/vpc_scripts/default.vgc
+++ b/mp/src/vpc_scripts/default.vgc
@@ -17,8 +17,10 @@ $Games
 // Makes the VPC scripts work in the SDK's context
 $Conditional "SOURCESDK" "1"
 
-// valve default 
+// valve defaults
 //$Include "vpc_scripts\projects.vgc"
-$include "vpc_scripts\projects_ff.vgc"
-$Include "vpc_scripts\groups.vgc"
+//$Include "vpc_scripts\groups.vgc"
+
+$include "vpc_scripts\projects_ff.vgc"
+$Include "vpc_scripts\groups_ff.vgc"
 
diff --git a/mp/src/vpc_scripts/groups_ff.vgc b/mp/src/vpc_scripts/groups_ff.vgc
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..a50216f5
--- /dev/null
+++ b/mp/src/vpc_scripts/groups_ff.vgc
@@ -0,0 +1,66 @@
+//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+//	GROUPS.VGC
+//
+//	Group Configurations for all Source(TM) Projects
+//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+///////////////////////
+// Group definitions //
+///////////////////////
+
+$Group "gamedlls"
+{
+	"client"
+	"server"
+}
+
+$Group "game"
+{
+	"client"
+	"mathlib"
+	"raytrace"
+	"server"
+	"tier1"
+	"vgui_controls"
+}
+
+$Group "shaders"
+{
+	"game_shader_dx9"
+}
+
+$Group "everything"
+{
+	"captioncompiler"
+	"client"
+	"fgdlib"
+	"game_shader_dx9"
+	"glview"
+	"height2normal"
+	"mathlib"
+	"motionmapper"
+	"phonemeextractor"
+	"raytrace"
+	"qc_eyes"
+	"server"
+	"serverplugin_empty"
+	"tgadiff"
+	"tier1"
+	"vbsp"
+	"vgui_controls"
+	"vice"
+	"vrad_dll"
+	"vrad_launcher"
+	"vtf2tga"
+	"vtfdiff"
+	"vvis_dll"
+	"vvis_launcher"
+}
+
+$Group "dedicated"
+{
+	"mathlib"
+	"server"
+	"tier1"
+}
+
diff --git a/vpc-notes.md b/vpc-notes.md
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..657e470f
--- /dev/null
+++ b/vpc-notes.md
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+# VPC notes
+
+## loading order
+default.vgc is always loaded first. this sucks and isnt super ideal
+but its easy to change.
+
+default.vgc defines game strings you can pass to vpc 'vpc /gamestr' to
+pick which conditional gets set.
+default.vgc loads groups and projects (all)
+
+gotcha: VPC seems to ignore VPCs not in a group (thus no sln),
+even when in a project unless you force generate them..
+
+## adding new junk that you want to generate projects for
+1. create your custom vpc
+2. (Optional) add the vpc $Project to a group in your group file (see default.vgc)
+3. run 'vpc +ProjectName' to make it spit out vcxprojs. if it cant find your
+'ProjectName', you may need to add the vpc to your project file in default.vgc.
+4. if you want to create a solution for a group (or single project for some wacky reason) pass '/mksln <sln name>' to vpc